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If you're looking to buy Top Notch Cymbals that will last you a lifetime of playing, look no further. These are very top end cymbals owned by an experienced drummer and are in very attractive condition. Zildjans always have a bright full sound to help make your playing sound fantastic and these are as good as it gets. They have had some good playing on them but have no visible damage that affects the sound at all. If you are willing to buy I will throw in 2 High-quality Stands